Curse

Zamochit · Mar 23, 2008, 08:04 PM // 20:04

I agree that 'champion' is a title worthy of respect ~ shame so many champ range guilds are being sold on to others so they can farm champ points off of each other though ~ Its sad.

Mr. Undisclosed · Mar 23, 2008, 08:08 PM // 20:08

I did not say using UB was following playstyle. I said theres plenty of mesmers that have fun playing a mesmer and are damn good at it too but I'm sure its a bitch for them to find groups for elite missions and the such so they resort to ursan for a short time to be able to experience them.

Would also like to add in this.

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Originally Posted by I D E L E T E D I

On the topic of SMS, i agree they are very skilled players. But them trashing UB the way they do, and then use one of the most imba builds in PvE history is just hilarious to say the least. For the record TNTF+SY Paragon = UB.

Old but QFT. Makes me feel sorta bad for having an imbagon.

Bryant Again · Mar 23, 2008, 08:21 PM // 20:21

They wouldn't have to resort to UB if they didn't get stuck with stupid people.

Mr. Undisclosed · Mar 23, 2008, 08:23 PM // 20:23

To be honest mesmers don't have much of a place in most elite missions. In my eyes why gimp yourself with a profession that isn't much use?

Bryant Again · Mar 23, 2008, 08:28 PM // 20:28

And that's why so many people frown upon them. They're not "gimped," they just have to work a bit harder to "find a spot," per se, in PvE.

Lest121 · Mar 23, 2008, 08:46 PM // 20:46

Why are people so pissed off at Ursan? I don't run it and don't care for it and i can still find groups that play with real builds..... of course I am a monk and it's not that hard to find groups, but still why all the hate, if you can't beat them! JOIN them! sheeeeeesh.

Skyy High · Mar 23, 2008, 09:24 PM // 21:24

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Originally Posted by underverse_ninja

Why are people so pissed off at Ursan? I don't run it and don't care for it and i can still find groups that play with real builds..... of course I am a monk and it's not that hard to find groups, but still why all the hate, if you can't beat them! JOIN them! sheeeeeesh.

Because some people don't particularly like pressing 1-2-1-1-2-1-1 while watching TV to be the definition of "elite mission."

Konig Des Todes · Mar 23, 2008, 09:37 PM // 21:37

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Originally Posted by underverse_ninja

Why are people so pissed off at Ursan? I don't run it and don't care for it and i can still find groups that play with real builds..... of course I am a monk and it's not that hard to find groups, but still why all the hate, if you can't beat them! JOIN them! sheeeeeesh.

Other then what was mentioned b4, of what I have noticed, a lot of "HM" guilds are full ursan runners, so for people like me who like to do HM and elite areas a lot, its either ursan or h/h, which cannot be done in elite areas. Also, for people like me, who hate to rely fully on monks to heal them, Ursans a big no since there are no self-heals.

I say ursan needs a nerf for non-norn areas. So the only elite area that it would be very useful in is Slavers'

zwei2stein · Mar 23, 2008, 09:37 PM // 21:37

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Originally Posted by Skyy High

Because some people don't particularly like pressing 1-2-1-1-2-1-1 while watching TV to be the definition of "elite mission."

That about explains it.

Akolo · Mar 23, 2008, 09:50 PM // 21:50

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Originally Posted by Azazel The Assassin

I say ursan needs a nerf for non-norn areas. So the only elite area that it would be very useful in is Slavers'

good idea( though i wouldnt mind if it was good, though please not as overpowered as it now is in other areas).... though dungeons doesnt count as norn areas

Mr. Undisclosed · Mar 23, 2008, 09:58 PM // 21:58

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Originally Posted by Bryant Again

And that's why so many people frown upon them. They're not "gimped," they just have to work a bit harder to "find a spot," per se, in PvE.

Actually I was talking about team leaders gimping themselves.

Bryant Again · Mar 23, 2008, 10:01 PM // 22:01

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Originally Posted by Sergeant Miyagi

Actually I was talking about team leaders gimping themselves.

And? How would they be gimping themselves with a Mesmer that knew how to play?

street peddler · Mar 23, 2008, 10:04 PM // 22:04

mesmers are pretty much known to be gimped in PvE, but thats another thread.

Bryant Again · Mar 23, 2008, 10:08 PM // 22:08

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Originally Posted by street peddler

mesmers are pretty much known to be gimped in PvE, but thats another thread.

They do have problems, I won't deny, but saying they're "useless" is a different (and wrong) matter.

Voltaic Annihilator · Mar 23, 2008, 10:09 PM // 22:09

screw ursan...sab ftw!

jadedragoon · Mar 23, 2008, 11:03 PM // 23:03

Personally I really don't mind ursan. Yes it is overpowering but what really gets me annoyed are people that won't take someone that is rank 8 or 7 in the Norn title track because they believe "your rank is to low" and therefore some how not experienced enough or some other bizarre reason/ idk

If you don't believe me try getting into a group for a fow hm. Elitest pvers?? For button mashing? When did rank matter in a skill that is already overpowered?

This is just my experience. Others experience may vary.